At last! We return from our hiatus! We pick up right where we left off as Rose, Nathan and Johnny attend their first PFLAG sharing meeting. Two of the stories they hear are written by members of our audience in response to our call for story submissions. For the most part, the dialog spoken by our actors comes directly from their text – with only a few changes for dramatic purposes.
Rose also happens to encounter a familiar face…
For more information about PFLAG Canada, please visit them online: pflagcanada.ca.
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This episode is the first of two parts, watch Part II here.
We’re happy to welcome Paul Bellini, of Kids in the Hall fame in the role of Gerry, the meeting’s moderator. You can all catch him as The Man, along side Darryl Dinn, in the Levi Brother’s hit web series Masculathon.
A note about PFLAG Canada
Nearly three years ago I started researching for Out With Dad. Like Nathan’s experiences in the beginning of our second episode, I was dismayed by the lack of resources for parents if faced with a child coming out. I did, however, find one excellent resource: pflagcanada.ca. I recall reading they had meetings every couple of weeks and tried my hand at writing a scene for Rose and Nathan. The way that early draft unfolded was based on a lot of guess work, because I didn’t have the courage to go to a meeting myself. Last year, one of our first official fans, Donna, invited me to come with her to a PFLAG Durham sharing meeting. I was really nervous – would I be accepted? I kept wondering if it was appropriate that a straight guy with no need to go other than curiosity should be there. Donna picked me up from the GO Station. On the drive to the community centre, Donna told me how the night would go. I still remember the comfort of the words “You can pass if you want to”. Yet, all the nervousness for nothing; everyone was so kind, and I was welcomed by everyone. I was also happy to learn, that my first draft of “Out with PFLAG” was fairly accurate. Jayme Harper was the moderator at that meeting, he’s since become President of PFLAG Canada – and someone I greatly admire. We’ve become pretty good friends since then. I can always turn to him for advice, as I did many times when revising this script. I wonder how he’ll feel to know that Paul Bellini should happen to be cast in a role inspired by him?
This episode is dedicated PFLAG Canada, and for all the organizations like it around the globe. They didn’t ask me to make it. It just felt like the obvious course thing Nathan would want to do. I’m very proud of this one.
Please, comment below! We really appreciate your feedback.
cast, in order of appearance
Will Conlon as Nathan
Kate Conway as Rose
Darryl Dinn as Johnny
Paul Bellini as Gerry
Harpreet Sehmbi as Nowmee
Noor Mohammed as Anwar
Caitlynne Medrek as Claire
Jennifer Kenneally as Marion
Kanza Feris as Athena
Aidan Gowland as Morgan
Music Composed, Produced and Performed by:
Adrian Ellis
Produced by:
Kara Dymond
Eric Taylor
Created, Written and Directed by:
Jason Leaver
Will we ever find out what happened/happens to Morgan, the boy with the black eye?
I just saw a Sponge Towel commercial on TV and thought the main “Sponge Pocket” looked a lot like Darryl Dinn… and it is him! Love that it’s in his bio! That spot makes me smile every time. Glad to see him in a speaking role – enjoy his acting even more in this web series.
Im struggling i don’t know if I’m gay or just a stupid crush on my mate but I’m 18 surley a crush is not the answer right Im to old for that. I really care for her and would do anyrhing for her and just want to kiss her but not ruin our friendship cos i font want to lose her . I wish myself and her were like rose and Claire or vanessa. I dont. Kow obe i do is im a fan of the show here in the uk prob is new eps come out at (EXCUSE THE PUN) really late in the night here.
I actually came out for a long time ago as bisexual, but coming out… like telling people about my sexuality… it doesn’t feel like a natural thing. And the thing is that it feels quite personal. I wouldn’t say that I moved back to the closet, but that I have kind of grown into not caring what anybody thinks. Just being myself. Before I might have been afraid that I could appear gay, but I don’t hide cover up anything about my sexuality. I just don’t go around and telling people about it.
And now it would seem also like a stupid thing to actually start telling people. Because the fact is that even tough I feel with myself that I like both boys and girls, I have never met a guy that I have fallen in love with. Just some crushes. Thing is that since I have never fallen in love with a guy, I could either be straight or just not have met the right guy. I mean, you don’t need to be gay to admire a guy. A girl can see if another girl is pretty without being a lesbian. I just think it’s pretty tabu that a guy can’t see if another guy is handsome.
Well, I just don’t know. It kind of feels a mess not knowing. Anyway, I just try to be myself.
Of course, there’s someone pointing out like “you could just try a guy to be sure”, but that wouldn’t do. Okey, so what if I like the sex? Does that mean I can fall in love with a guy? It doesn’t help a thing.
I think just knowing if you’re gay or straight must be much easier than not knowing.
When that’s said, I do feel gay, but in a strange way. Like a girl trapped in a man’s body. And my attraction feels kind of linked to that feeling too. Like being attracted to straight guys and lesbian girls. I mean, just being regular gay seems much easier because that’s something people can get used to. And no matter how hard I think about it, I know for a fact that I’m a guy and that’s not going to change. People think even that changing sex might be a solution, but it’s not. It would just make me look like a girl, not being one. How do you come out as a girl trapped in a mans body? And how can people understand that? When they look at me they see a man. Witch is exactly the same thing I see when looking in the mirror. And yea, it made me feel a bit lonely when I was younger and girls where playing with girls and boys where playing with boys. And I just wanted to play with the girls. And I hated being shut out by girls because I was a boy. I had to keep it together to say that I didn’t choose to be a boy and that it wasn’t my fault that I was born this way.
Oh, I wrote a bit long I guess. I just had to get it out of my system.
Hello! The episode was amazing and really touching! Everyone did a good job! Each story was realistic and the whole episode reminds us that WE ARE NOT ALONE!! Can’t wait for the next one!
grazie…
I just watched this episode and I have tears in my eyes. It really felt real. Real stories, real emotions. I greatly appreciate your work. I hope it will be shown to as many people as possible, this work can make a real difference in many people’s lives. Thank you sincerely
Paola
So, I started watching all the episodes yesterday, and finished today. Let me just say: OH MY GOD! I’m in love with this show, it’s a GREAT show, and it’s already helped me with my situation in one way, and it’s just awesome. I NEED the next episode. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! AGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Oh, and I just want to comment on something that Johnny says in the second episode in season 1 “That’s because America runs the internet.” I’m American, and I just laughed at that because it’s too true. Haha, thanks for making this show, can’t wait for the next episode!!:)
when part 2 is coming out?????
Imagino que provavelmente não vão me responder. Gostaria de pedir que por favor concertem as legendas, não estão sincronizadas e em alguns momentos elas não aparecem. Quando os vídeos eram postados diretamente no canal do Youtube isso não acontecia, acredito que seja melhor voltarem a postarem os vídeos lá.
De qualquer forma quero agradecer a tentativa de nos apresentar o vídeo com legendas e dizer a série é maravilhosa. Obrigado por tratarem do tema com tanta dedicação. Um grande abraço.
Diego – Brasil (Rio de Janeiro)
Diego here is asking for the OWD team to check the synchronization of the subtitles. He says sometimes the subtitles don’t appear on the screen and that this didn´t happen when the videos were posted directly on Youtube.
He also says thanks to you guys for putting subtitles and for making this wonderful series. (And he sends a hug) 🙂
I have not verified the subtitle thing but I just felt like helping Diego send his message to the OWD team. 🙂
The best episode so far. Real story told and I am touch. Doesn’t matter where you are in the world, the problem remain the same and we all share them somehow. Thank you for making this series.
Thank you for commenting. They are universal problems, aren’t they?
When does part two come out? This first part was really moving, and was that boy beat up for being gay? I feel bad about that..I know it’s jsut acting and all but things like that really do happen, This was really moving, as others have said..
Loved this episode. I feel like this is where the series has come into its own – I mean, all shows are designed to entertain and tell stories, and if we’re lucky they’ll tell those stories truthfully and well – but here you’ve made something very real and truthful for queer people – which is something that most shows, for whatever reason, can’t do, and something I hope you’re very, very proud of. Whatever else you do on this series, I think you’ve achieved something great here.
Loved this episode (but I want more!). Thanks for helping educating the world in issues that are so sensitive and important.
I am sorry if this is out of line, but there are a few things going on in the world that need to be talked about in as many places as possible. I am moving to a developing country where being part of the LGBT comunity is illegal and punishable with jail, and I wish the international comunity keeps pushing the government until that changes. In a civilized world these things should not be happening, but it seems that lately we are having an epidemic sprout of intolerance all over the globe. I invite everyone following OWD to sign the petitions to stop the bill against talking, reading, writing, meeting about anything gay in St. Petersburg https://www.allout.org/stpetersburg-dont-go and the killings of gay-looking people in Iraq https://www.allout.org/stpetersburg-dont-go
Very moving episode. Great to see Bellini in more than a towel too.
This is incredibly powerful, I am sharing with this everyone I know!
Can’t wait for tonight! 😀
YAYYYY the girl from the bathroom !!!! I love her ! 😀
Can I just add: very well edited and acted.
It seems it is not acted, like they tell the truth.
That is comforting and encouraging.
I’m 50 years old, when I came out to my parents they were so easy on me (30 years ago).
Basically nmy mum said: Hmm, if I had known that was possible…
And my dad said: I like your girlfriend better than your boyfriend before.
And now I am a gay mother of two straight, adult sons.
I wholeheartedly support anyone coming out to everyone or just one.
Thank you for this series.
It will help.
All of u can be proud od yourself!!!
Cuz the things u do are just so real,understandable and helpful!!
Thanks x)
Btw – pls keep going
Uou! I don’t have words to descrive what I feel right now. Thank you for show how is come out with your family and friends. I’m sure this helps people to be more strong and brave for come out in their life.
Thanks very very very much!
Excelente este capítulo, quiero ver la segunda parte! (:
hi I’m from Brazil … I wonder if you guys can get the subtitles in Portuguese, sometimes the delay and not to watch ….
Ps: (I’m on google translator)
Gracias… desde Argentina mi apoyo al trabajo que están realizando.
Thank you … from Argentina my support for the work they are doing.
Very touching story. Reassuring to know that there are muslims who are gay too. But brothers are not supportive or proud of their gay siblings. And parents are not at all. Interesting how such young girls and boys are brave to come out. It doesn’t make me less scared or stronger but I feel some peace. Wish I had brother like anwar. He was too sad for his sister. My mom is like the mom in blue top and my father is worse. At least one of my parents should have been like Nathan.
Short review: great episode
Longer review is here: https://fedscomic.blogspot.com/2012/03/review-out-with-pflag-part-i.html
Hello everyone,
I just want to tell you guys your show is awesome. Please make a season 3 and more… I can actually relate on the story but my life story is more complicated than your webseries story… Life is complicated… I love Vanessa and Rose OMG such a good characters… I love you show keep it up…Hope you webseries won’t end… 🙂
Athena’s story was the most touching story. I can really relate to hers the most. In the first part when she said she thought everyone was gay i thought that too. I just didnt know like she didnt.
HI, such a good programme, I have been bisexual all my life, but I have only had hetrosexual relationships, I am from a Jamaican background born in England and gay people are hated and even killed in Jamaica and they bring this hatred to England wih them. I have never had a male on male relationship and now I am looking for a male partner, and to move away from male on female relationships. I have never got on with the women I had been with, not because they are female, it is because I have always met the wrong women, the nastsy ones and mean ones and the damn right wicked ones, I never seem to meet the nice ones, the kind ones and the caring ones, I have had no luck meeting the right woman. Not saying that a male on male relationships would be any better,
I am a realist and I think I know what is what, I am not into just the sex, even though I have never had sex with a male, I just want to end my life with what I want, just a bit of happiness. My ex-wife ran off with someone else one our son was born, she did not want to bea parent, and I had to leave my job and care for him, five years later I met someone else, she wanted me to put my son in care, he was only five years old, because she wanted me to concerntrate on herlife and my son got in the way, so I got rid of her, kicked her out and sent her on her way, my other girlfriend just kept cheating, not saying that a goy relationship would be any different, but it would make me feel better in my life. I am not going into my 5th decade and most of my adult life I have spent alone and being a single parent of one. When my son leaves home a man in moving in, what man I don’t know yet.
I am looking on internet dating site, but I need to go out and hit the scene and find a male partner that way, I will have a good look around, I don’t want to meet the male equivelent of the females I have already met, someone nice, caring and understand, and someone where we can share each others lives with, I am sick of the crap and the unnecessary problems I have already been through. Coming out will be hard, and I feel that why should I come out, if I want to life a gay life, I should be able to without having to tell people, hetrosexuals don’t tell anyone, so why shuold gay people? Why is coming out such a problem? I should have done it years ago, and I know if I had I would still have a job and a house to live in, all of this I lost when my exwife ran off with some bloke she met in a night club.
I don’t want to fight anymore, just love somone in a loving way, no more problems, no more cheating people in my life and no more liars either, just love, and a male on male relationship is the way to go for me, nothing more than that, but what do I tell my Jamaican family, I know it is against the law to be gay in Jamaica, but I am not in Jamaica, I am in England, so I will confront my sexuality, confront them and move on with the life I have always wanted. Thanks for the show, Out with Dad, really encouraging and ground breaking. But the people I know are not that understanding, but I no longer care about them, and what they think and say, no way ozay. 🙂
I dont have words i loved i cry and i cant wait for the nex episode and the next one and all the future episodes THANK YOU for this, MAKES ME SO STRONG and give me a lot of HOPE 🙂
Saludos desde Mexico
Gracias, Janett.
I’m happy we’ve helped you feel strong. You’re not alone!
que capitulo maravilloso…felicitaciones!!
it makes me so much stronger, hearing these stories. i’m so much more confident to come out to my parent. I already came out to some friends, it makes me really good. I’m from Brazil, but I’m in Canada for 5 monsths (: This webserie, really makes me feel better. Thank you. can’t wait to see what’s next.
I’m so happy to know we’ve helped you Isabela!
All the best!
somebody know if there some page same that in spanish, because I don’t know english
I recently came out to my parents. I”m bisexual, and they don’t accept it. I have been raised as a Christian. I didn’t choose to be this way…it’s just how I am. They think it’s a stage, but it’s not. Sometimes I feel so alone, no one seems to understand me. Sometimes I just can’t take it and I begin to cry. I have a crush on this girl who I am hoping to ask out soon. But if I try to break the news to my parents, they’ll get mad. I don’t know what to do. I just want to live my life.
I’m sorry you’re struggling with this, Mykaela.
Know that you’re not alone.
Ame este capitulo!! 😀 wow!! Me senti identificada de principio a fin… Ahora no puedo esperar por la segunda parte!!!
You did an amazing job. You share ideals in a way that gives many out there hope for a world where they can speak of and live out their sexual orientation freely. In Out With Dad it is has been a small circle. In real life with broadcasting this series you broaden that circle ever so much further.
I like the idea of being part of this circle. And I think it was a grat idea to let your audiance step into the storyline – into that visible circle. And show that we are not alone out there but always out with someone.
Thank you for your kind words Dave.
We’ve reached to people in countries around the globe.
Please, help us get known even more by sharing us!
okay, i have waited months for this episode. and now it finally is released and put up on this website and for an unknown reason that damn irony decides to strike down on me and put a little error in the video. how fun.
Is it working for you now?
Loving Ms Claire 🙂 What a sweetie.
Can’t wait for part two. Only another few weeks….
Exceptional episode! What a wonderful way to give your audience a voice. I was moved to tears. Keep up the good work!
Thank you.
I’m so happy the story submissions idea worked for us.
Wow!!!!!
One of my favorite ep so far!!!!!!
por fin!!!!! había esperado este momento. Espero que cada vez tengan mucho más éxito.
Muchas felicidades 😀
Gracias!
As I said before and I will say again Out With Dad is a gift. Thank you to all the actors that so get it. Parenthood is a learned concept and it may take generations to get it right. I do believe that shows like Out With Dad remind us that we are human and it is okay if we don’t get it right as long as our children know we love them and we are trying to understand. Thank you Jason and all the actors at Out With Dad. This PFLAG Mom sends love and hugs.
I have never been so proud to give a gift, such as this.
I’ll see you in a couple of weeks. 🙂
This was just amazing, you made me cry and I dont even know exactly why. Those bruises in that boy´s face hurted me, I can feel his pain. How stupid hate is, and how fragil, and at the same time, how strong we are as humans. Thank you, my soul needed this video.
What you are doing is amazing.
Thank you Serendy.
Perhaps, if we do another PFLAG episode, we’ll learn more about Morgan, who has the bruises, and why.
This episode is so emotional. All the people’s stories about being gay and their hardships with accepting it and coming out of the closet. That Greek girl’s story was flat out heartbreaking. The part where she said, “I never knew there could be something that could make my mom NOT love me,” I was in tears by then. This show is so inspiring and realistic; I love it. It makes me want to come out and tell my parents I’m bisexual. That I like girls. But since they raised me to be a Christian and to live by Bible standards makes me worry. What if they refuse to let me live here anymore? What if they start screaming at me and yelling at me? Say I’m throwing myself into eternal condemnation or something? Makes me worry.
Makes me think about the time I came out to my best friend. The only person who knows I’m bisexual. I was so nervous and freaking out. I hadn’t seen her in months since we live in different towns and she goes to public school and I’m in an online program and it was some months when I realized I was bisexual and liked girls. She came into my room and we sat on my bed. I wasn’t able to look her in the eye and was freaking out. She just kept on saying, “Come on. Tell me. We’re best friends.” And I just felt like I was going to explode. I was going to finally come out, you know? Then I just blurted out, “I’m gay.” And she just raised an eyebrow and went, “Really?” I nodded worrying she was gonna break off our friendship but then she just went, “Wow,” Then said, “So, how’ve you been lately? Been forever since I’ve seen you,” And I’m like, “I just told you I’m gay,” and then she said that she was fine with it and didn’t care. That we were best friends no matter what even if I was into girls. I was so relieved.
That’s a wonderful story! I’m so glad you have a friend like that.
Know that you’re not alone.
In season three, I want to focus more on bisexuality.
Wow, just wow. So heartbreaking, but so beautiful. Best episode of the series. I can’t wait for the next episode. And I’m glad we get to see the bathroom girl again. Good job, Out With Dad team.
I’m so glad you liked it. I was nervous people wouldn’t because we didn’t hear much from Rose & Nathan. It would seem I didn’t have to worry!
Glad you’re happy about seeing Claire again too.
Part 2 can’t come fast enough! This was really moving (not to sound like a broken record, repeating what everyone else seems to be saying). I loved how tentative Rose was when Claire waved at her- so adorable. I hope we’ll be seeing more of her. I can’t wait for the next part! Still loving the local setting by the way, even if we don’t get to see Toronto skyline I like knowing it’s there 🙂 Thank you so much for all your hard work, it means the world to so many people.
We can’t wait to share Part II as well!
I’m glad you enjoyed that cute moment between Rose and Claire too. When I was directing it, I too got butterflies!
I love that you love Toronto too. 🙂
This was absolutely beautiful! I cannot wait for the next episode!!! I Missed “Out With Dad” Episodes so much! So glad you’re back! <3
We’re happy to be back!
Thank you for your patience!
So powerful and very real. The heartache a reminder of tough times with my son …Love the work you do keep it going
so heartbreaker
i remember when i do the same thing i talk about how i come out whit my parents and how they react (sorry if i write something wrong my englhis is no good) frist my dad speak about kant (in this moment i think ok dad i am gay i dont want a explicate of the histore of folosofy) and if i want can go to a psquiater a fixme becose everithing is posible if a want and wen i told my mom she teldme “if you want i go to one reunion of familis of gay people you have to adelgazate) extrnger i still thinking i dont now everi time i want souport for my parents they teldme some else i dont feel and i dont now if they are proud of me
I think you are very brave!
Thank you for sharing.
wow that was amazing i was cry through the all 10:50
Wow, this one was really…tough… what stories!!! they really get you… I really admire these people that had the guts to come out and no matter the circumstanses be happy and proud of themselves… really really moving I hope one day I have those same guts to come out to my family :/… Excellent! I can’t whait for the next one, congratz, you really had us on the loose… but it really worth it! Greetings to everyone! Rose ( Kate) looks as beatiful as always ( yeahh I still having a huge crush on her ja ja XD) and now I’ll be waiting the next episode!! again greetings from mexico!! n___n
I agree, amazing courage by those people. Not only did they go through what they have gone through, they had the courage to share it with us for Out With Dad. Amazing people!
Amazing story I can’t wait until part 2
in less than 12 minutes you have me crying like a baby.
Mission: accomplished.
That was an incredible episode. So raw and poignant. I am not ashamed to say that I am typing through tears. Thank you all so much for bringing this into the world.
P.S I knew we would see Bathroom Girl again! Awesome!
I’m so proud that we moved you.
And also, excited that you guessed we’d see the bathroom girl again! Now, she’s got a name! Claire!
That was amazing – jason, will and kate ! the stories put together were heart wrenching, and i cant wait to see what the girl from the washroom / girl whose there with her mom- sorry i dont recall the characters name. i liked the introduction of the hellp in the school washroom and the see ya later.
more people will watch the show as its released on dvd —- i know i will buy one for my friends too.
Hello Melanie!
Thank you for commenting. Choosing those stores was really heart wrenching process. There were many more. Maybe we’ll do another PFLAG episode in season three?
We are now giving away the DVD, but not selling it yet. Maybe one day. For now, the only way to get the DVD is from our Contribute page:
outwithdad.com/contribute
This was an amazing episode. Really gave insight on all the difficulties come a long with being gay in today’s society. I believe this is a episode that will be able to weave itself into many’s hearts. Really amazing job.
Thank you for your kind words, Sky.
This episode was very emotional. It all felt so real! I can’t wait to watch part 2 🙂 Greetings from Portugal!
Where’s part 2?
Wow this episode was realy amazing, I waited a long time to see new stuffs from you guys…Seeying this series sometimes make me come out of the closet, but then theres the questions what if I got kick out of mu house, what if my parents turn their backs on me? But i am still strugling if I come out as a lebian or not…But I really love these series and I wish I could go to a place like PFLAG in Puerto Rico…Thanks you guys for giving me and some other people hope in their lifes!!!
I’m sorry you’re stuck in that situation. Know that you’re not alone.
I looked to see if there’s a Puerto Rico PFLAG, but I don’t see one. If you ever find there is a group similar in your country, please tell us, okay?
Touching and wonderful as always. Thank you for all your hard work. Once again you made me cry.
I’m glad we moved you. The hard work always feels so worth it when we hear feedback like this.
Thank you Madelaine!
You guys just hit it out of the park again. I watch the episode and I’m always left wanting another episode right away. I love this series and can’t wait for part two.
Thank you Brooke!
It means so much to hear from you. I was quite nervous to return from hiatus with an episode that hardly has any Rose & Nathan at all. I’m glad we didn’t disappoint.
I think you’ll love Part II.
I can’t wait to here what Rose will share with the group. I really liked the girl with her mom, she seemed sweet and her little wave at Rose was cute lol I hope they show more of her in upcoming episodes. But more importantly I hope Rose and Vannessa can end up together! Oooo I’m so excited!!
Did you recognize Claire?
Rose and Nathan will get their turn to share in Part II.
A very moving episode. It shows us the viewer that everybody is different and their own personal story is unique. The one thing we all desire though is Love & Acceptance. Well done OWD for bringing us such an amazing storyline.
Thank you Karen, I’m glad you liked it. I was nervous people would be upset that we didn’t spend much time with Rose & Nathan.
Very moving episode! Athena’s story was especially touching.
Amazing!Hear breaking and conforting and at the same time. Every single person should watch this.
Thank you for watching! Please, share it with every single person you know!